In this episode, Ben is back! and they chat about how Ben has sold one of his SaaS. Noah shares how things have been going with Potion. At the end they talk a little bit about the progress made on their NFT project.

Ben: https://twitter.com/digitaltrouble
Noah: https://twitter.com/noahwbragg
Ummm: https://www.ummm.co
Potion: https://potion.so/guides
allround: https://allround.io
Product Journey: https://productjourney.fm