Tobias Ellwood joins to talk about government plans to increase minimum prison time for convicted terrorists. He tells Bloomberg Westminster's Roger Hearing and Sebastian Salek more needs to be spent on rehabilitation and checks before release.

But first, Peter Dawson, director of the Prison Reform Trust, says more prison time doesn't help - there's no simple solution.

Plus, Tim Bale, politics professor at Queen Mary University London, says security is an area where the U.K. and EU may be more obliging with each other, but that ministers have refused to be honest about the challenges that face the country after Brexit.

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