Molly Kawahata, a former advisor for energy and climate change at the Obama White House, chats with SAM associate editor Sarah Wojcik about the fossil fuel funded myth of the personal “carbon footprint,” the problem with climate shaming, and why it’s time to focus on systemic climate action. With a focus on the power of climate advocacy, Kawahata talks about ways to frame climate change when speaking to the public and why we shouldn’t lose hope.