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This magical conversation between Joy & Chelsea is worth the listen. It's an extended soft spaces. Topics include

(more of) Chelsea' post election thoughts concerns
Wicked - we understand why Cynthia and Ariana are crying
Black people from the UK & American black people 
Tyler Perry and his production process
Joy talks about risk and sacrified
Chelsea encourages Joy 
More Joy & Chelsea relationship lor

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