Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be podcasters. It's another edition of Altmania: Friends of Bob, continuing right along in our Alan Rudolph series. This time we're joined again by a returning champion, our pal from Podside Picnic, Chris Woodward. We get into this interesting leap in budget for ol' Rudolph, working alongside Kris Kristofferson and Willie Nelson in a fun little film about what it means to make art in the US of A. What does it mean to be an artist, to get tied up in the financial end of the music biz, and to avoid all those fat gangsters in suits? Well, you'll just have to tune in to find that out now won't you. Y'all come back now, ya hear?