The Black Lion was a result of more than a couple of years of decline and mis-management at the Scarlets - it was hard to take and hard to watch. We discuss the things we would like to see change and the letter from Crys 16 which matches a lot of the things that we have been discussing over the last couple of seasons - and we discuss how we are not the only people that feel this way.

Our message to the club is clear - we hope that they are listening.

Our Scarlets Fever Christmas Quiz can be found here - enjoy: https://youtu.be/rltM3XDIkE4

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The boys try to find different subjects to distract themselves from the rugby - Big M plays hide and seek with an internet signal while Huw starts a game of 'Name a red animal' and Lee G has one of his rants about something but they keep coming back to the Scarlets and the way forward.

PS - Something special is coming on Sunday.

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Beating Cardiff is becoming a regular habit but apparently we are not allowed to play them 16 times a season so the boys discuss what we take from that game and how we move forward. Martyn gives a very rapid rundown of the community game while Lee and Huw go off on all sorts of tangents.

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Lee G is delighted to be joined by Rachel Evans, Vice Chair of Crys 16 for a chat about what Crys 16 does, how it interacts with JSG and why it is able to ask difficult questions to the Scarlets. If you don't know whaat Crys 16 do - it is well worth listening to this.

Joining Crys 16 is free and takes 2 minutes - you can join up here http://crys16.cymru/aelodaeth-membership/

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A loss against the Ospreys is never easy but this one feels like a turning point - things have got to change.

The boys are very open and honest about their feelings after last weekends game and their opinions on what needs to happen going forward.

The mood is lightened slightly with a round of 'Who played for us and then them' before we look at the prospects for the Cardiff game. Feel free to join in with us on social media with this one.

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The Leinster game can be viewed one of two ways, we try to cover both. The Community game should be covered in more detail - we are getting there. The Ospreys game can only be covered one way - and we go hard on that one!

Plus we ask the question, How many players can you name who have played for the Scarlets before they played for Ospreys?

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Martyn delivers his ever popular community run down and the boys chat through listeners questions and then it is onward into the Lions game. There were plenty of positives to discuss which makes the loss even more confusing. If you were the person with the drum at the game - you will want to listen to this one as well.

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Big M was busy doing important things with important people so Lee G and Huw Flatcap struggled on without him. Hu's first visit to the Parc kicked off proceedings followed by the run down of the community game fixtures, listeners questions, a discussion about the Cardiff game and a look ahead to the Lions game. The plans for drums and trumpets in the stadium are still in development - don't be surprised if they turn up soon.

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You can feel the anger and frustration through the earphones on this one - it is never easy being a fan of a team that turns in a performance like that last weekend but things will improve and we, as fans, have a part to play in that. Honest conversations are hard to have but if you care about your club then you know they need to be had. If you know someone involved in the club, please ask them to listen so they can understand what fans are going through.

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Big (E)m dons his pretty pink hair band to try and compete with Huw's headwear as they both try to distract themselves from the Scarlets performance last weekend. Unfortunately, the game needed to be spoken about and while they try to find a few positives - it was not an easy task.

There is other stuff going on but that game will haunt the boys thoughts for a while.

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