In episode 8 we wonder if podcasting really is an "intellectual dark web", or just a good place for conversations because nobody can interrupt us. We meditate on how we might have lowered the entry threshold of other tools too much, or if it's just the natural cycle of digital tools. We reflect about amateurs vs. professionals and while we ponder on how we should do more things for love, we observe how love, competence and intent are the key to everything. We also mention Jordan Peterson, but we don't necessarily agree with him.