I sit down with an incredible visual storyteller, Justin Staple.

Justin is a documentary filmmaker who's been examining hip hop, indie and electronic music for over ten years.

His last film American Rapstar got picked up by SXSW and he's the creator of the critically acclaimed hit series on Viceland – The Therapist.

Justin and I talk about how he hustled to become a director and get into UChicago, his time at Vice, his new production company All The Smoke and how he'd use his own social money.