This week I’m joined by Rick Holland, VP of Strategy for Digital Shadows. Rick is a Texan, so we kick things off right by talking BBQ. After that, we dive into his origin story where he describes his time in the Army and what he learned there. I also ask him about his time as a Forrester analyst and whether analyst firms are pay to play, and whether they have a negative impact on the security industry. Finally, we discuss the evolution of threat intelligence in the security field.