Space To Exhale with Lisa Hurley

Some of the most accomplished people are also the most exhausted. They are showing up in public, exceeding expectations, taking care of everyone, and making success look effortless. Meanwhile, behind closed doors, they are physically depleted, mentally struggling, and completely burned out.

Nobody deserves to live that way, so if you’re dealing with burnout, join Lisa and Christy Rutherford for the next episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast. Christy is an executive coach, a former U.S. Coast Guard Commander, and the author of 90 Days to Burnout Recovery, and like Lisa, she is also a burnout survivor.

In “Beyond Burnout: Rebuilding Capacity, Restoring Yourself,” Lisa and Christy will explore:

✅ Why burnout is about more than workload and stress 

✅ How perfectionism, people-pleasing, and weak boundaries fuel burnout

✅ Why high achievement can come at a hidden personal cost

✅ Practical ways to rebuild mental and emotional capacity 

✅ How rest, self-love, and soft living can coexist with ambition 

✅ What Christy's philosophy, “Money Loves Happy People,” reveals about joy, prosperity, and sustainable success 

If you are (or someone you know is) battling burnout and you need help navigating to a healthier place, this show’s for you. There is more to life than pushing through exhaustion; Christy and Lisa will provide tips for how you can live a more aligned life steeped in rest and self-care. Join them for a candid conversation about stepping out of survival mode and making space for yourself to heal. 💚

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If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

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ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Christy Rutherford: Founder, Vision Finder International, and author of 90 Days to Burnout Recovery

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Founder of The Great Exhale, and Chief Inspiration Officer of The Gentle Breath newsletter. 

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Healing is not just about what happens in the physical body. Sometimes, the deepest healing begins with what we are ready to process on an energetic level.

In this episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Lisa welcomes shaman, energy medicine practitioner, and grief guide Kimberly Bargassé.

Kimberly brings a deeply personal perspective to energy healing, shaped by the loss of her mother, her spiritual journey to Peru, and her training in ancestral healing traditions. Together, Kimberly and Lisa, both Reiki practitioners, explore the connection between energy, emotional well-being, grief, and personal transformation.

In this episode, you will discover:

💚 What Reiki and energy healing are 

💚 How they support holistic well-being

💚 How grief can shape our healing journeys

💚 The role of energetic release in creating space for renewal

Join Lisa and Kimberly for a thoughtful conversation about how to relax, release, and reconnect with yourself.

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ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Kimberly Bargassé: Shamanic Healer, Spiritual Life Coach, and Founder of Ener-ki

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

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The world has no shortage of people making noise. As the world seems to get more chaotic daily, what we need instead is more people making a positive difference. More people building community instead of chasing clout. More people who understand that genuine connection matters more than performative engagement. 

In this episode, Lisa welcomes Isvari Maranwe, someone who understands all of the above, and who actually practices what she preaches. Isvari is the Founder and CEO of Yuvoice, a social media platform that rewards real-world impact, and The Sentinel by Yuvoice, a citizen journalism network. A cybersecurity attorney, entrepreneur, and author of the forthcoming book Impact, Not Outrage, Isvari is challenging conventional ideas about influence, success, and social responsibility.

Together, Lisa and Isvari explore:

✅ Why meaningful impact matters more than money, fame, or social media clout

✅ How authentic community and reciprocal relationships foster genuine belonging

✅ The importance of protecting mental health while pursuing ambitious goals

✅ How to cultivate sustainable life-work balance without compromising personal values

✅ Why meaningful change begins with connection, compassion, and collective care

Join Lisa and Isvari for a conversation about choosing purpose over prestige, community over clout, and impact over outrage.

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📚 Get your copy of Space To Exhale

If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

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ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Isvari Maranwe, Founder & CEO of Yuvoice and The Sentinel by Yuvoice, and author of Impact, Not Outrage

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

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• Get Isvari’s newsletter, The Superhero Brief

• For updates, visit isvari.com

  
  

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Soft living is about more than luxury and comfort. For Black women especially, soft living can be a way of reclaiming joy, rest, self-love, while also resisting the pressure of the systems that were never designed for them to thrive.

In this episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Lisa welcomes veteran educator, author, speaker, and anti-racist activist Rosemary Campbell-Stevens, MBE, for a conversation about what it means to move beyond simply using “Global Majority” as a term, and start embracing “Global Majority” as a lifestyle. Because honestly, a lot of what we call soft living nowadays is rooted in practices and rituals created by the communities now known as the Global Majority.

As the person who brought the term Global Majority to prominence, Rosemary is uniquely qualified to participate in this discussion. Together, Lisa and Rosemary explore Black identity, decolonization, soft living, and the everyday practices that can help Black women get centered and heal themselves.

In “Exploring Global Majority Life: Soft Living as Liberation,” you will discover:

💚 What it looks like to live a Global Majority life

💚 Why soft living can be liberatory 

💚 How joy, rest, and self-love can become intentional daily practices

💚 How decolonizing our thinking can change the way we understand ourselves and the world

💚 How Black women can define freedom, softness, and fulfillment on their own terms 

Join Lisa and Rosemary and be part of a conversation that invites you to imagine a life shaped less by survival mode and more by true liberation.

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📚 Get your copy of Space To Exhale

If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

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ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Rosemary Campbell-Stephens, MBE, author of Educational Leadership and the Global Majority and founder of Retreats by Rosemary

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Chief Inspiration Officer of The Gentle Breath newsletter, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

CONNECT WITH ROSEMARY:

• Connect with Rosemary on LinkedIn

• For updates, visit RosemaryCampbellStephens.com

• Learn more about Retreats by Rosemary

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Uncertainty can feel uncomfortable, but it can also create space for courage, calm, and, eventually, clarity. In this episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Lisa welcomes her friend Alexis Mobley, PCC, for a candid conversation about what it means to move forward when one’s next chapter is not yet clear. 

After 25 years inside companies including IBM, JPMorgan, TransUnion, and Capital One, Alexis has deep expertise in driving and navigating change in fluid corporate environments. In “The Gift of Uncertainty: Courageously Embracing the Unknown,”  Lisa and Alexis explore navigating change through a more personal lens, including how to accept life’s unpredictabilities, embrace self-trust, and have the courage to admit, “I don’t know what comes next.” 

You will discover:

💚 Why uncertainty does not have to mean instability

💚 How to stay grounded when you do not have all the answers

💚 How courage can help you navigate change without abandoning yourself

💚 Why boundaries and self-love matter during seasons of transition

💚 How clarity about what you want can guide you even when the path is unclear

Join Lisa and Alexis for a real conversation about courage, change, and making room for the unknown. 

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📚 Get your copy of Space To Exhale

If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

Already read it? Please consider leaving a review on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Goodreads.

ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Alexis Mobley, MS, PCC, CEO & Founder | The Executive Tea Lady™

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

CONNECT WITH ALEXIS:

• Connect with Alexis on LinkedIn and Instagram

• For updates, visit IMatterCoaching.com

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Sometimes the life you worked hard to build stops feeling like the life you want to live. That does not mean you failed at life—you definitely haven’t. But it might mean that some changes need to happen. 

In “The Soft Pivot: Reinventing Life on Your Own Terms,” Lisa Hurley welcomes Life Strategist, Senior Project Manager, and Mystique Femininity creator Christian Sismone for a conversation about recognizing when you have outgrown an old version of your life and are ready to intentionally create what comes next.

In this episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Lisa and Christian will explore what happens when women begin questioning the roles, expectations, and habits that have shaped their lives, and start making choices based on who they are now. They will also talk about the pressure many women, especially Black women, experience to remain endlessly capable, independent, and self-sufficient, even when their goals, health, or minds, and bodies require support. 

You will discover:

💚 How to recognize when the life you built no longer reflects who you are

💚 Why reinvention can begin with clarity rather than crisis

💚 What is a soft pivot and why you might need one right now

💚 How to move from performing your life to actually inhabiting it

💚 Why asking for and receiving support is essential when your goals exceed your individual capacity

💚 How softness, strategy, and self-trust can work together to shape what comes next

Join Lisa and Christian for a thoughtful conversation about intentional reinvention, lasting change, and creating a life that aligns with who you are today.

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📚 Get your copy of Space To Exhale

If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

Already read it? Please consider leaving a review on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Goodreads.

ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Christian Sismone, Life Strategist, Senior Project Manager, and Mystique Femininity creator. 

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Chief Inspiration Officer of The Gentle Breath, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

CONNECT WITH CHRISTIAN:

• Connect with Christian on LinkedIn and YouTube

• Explore Christian’s course, The Soft Pivot

• For updates, visit ChristianSismone.com

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Sometimes getting your life back into alignment requires more than a slight reset. It requires a complete recalibration.

In this episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast Lisa welcomes award-winning international keynote and TEDx speaker, licensed clinical social worker, and transformation coach Jelan Agnew for “Recalibration Session: Getting Your Life in Alignment,” a candid conversation about what happens when the life that used to fit no longer does.

Drawing on more than 20 years in the mental health field and her own transformative journey through burnout, Jelan’s work explores the spaces between who a person once was, is now, and is becoming. Together, Lisa and Jelan discuss rest, joy, gratitude, and what it means to create a life rooted in alignment rather than performance. Viewers and listeners will discover:

✅ How to recognize when life needs complete recalibration, rather than small band aids

✅ Why transitional seasons can become spaces for preparation and healing

✅ How rest, ease, and flow support sustainable change

✅ Why joy and gratitude can be active practices, especially for Black women

✅ How to begin building a life that reflects who you are becoming

Recalibration is not about having everything figured out. It is about creating space to hear what parts of your life are calling for change, and choosing what comes next with greater intention.

Join Lisa and Jelan for a powerful recalibration session to help you stop performing a life that you’ve outgrown, and start creating an authentic life that suits the person you are today.

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The Gentle Breath is Lisa Hurley's Sunday newsletter featuring affirmations, reflections, wellbeing resources, podcast updates, and gentle encouragement for living a soft, centered, serene life. More than a newsletter, The Gentle Breath is a weekly invitation to slow down, reconnect with yourself, and begin each week from a place of peace. 

📚 Get your copy of Space To Exhale

If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

Already read it? Please consider leaving a review on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Goodreads.

ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Jelan Agnew, LCSW, Award-Winning International Keynote and TEDx Speaker, Facilitator and Transformation Coach. 

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Chief Inspiration Officer of The Gentle Breath, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

CONNECT WITH JELAN:

• Connect with Jelan on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook

• Book a Recalibration Session with Jelan

• Watch Jelan’s TEDx talk on YouTube 

• For updates, visit JelanAgnew.com

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There comes a point when pouring from an empty cup stops looking generous and starts costing the pourer too much. Living in a depleted state is painful, both physically and mentally. Returning to the full self requires new boundaries, new habits, and new levels of self care.

In this episode, “Soft Life Season: From an Empty Cup to the Full Self,” Lisa welcomes Anta Gueye-James. This milestone episode marks one-third of the way through season 2. It is also a reunion between two women who go way back. Anta is one of the founding members of The Great Exhale, the community Lisa founded as a soft space for Black women. 

Anta is the Founder of Zanayah Group, a certified neuro-coach, strategist, and author of Shattered American Dream. Together, Lisa and Anta explore soft living, somatics, boundaries, and liberation through a culturally rooted lens. 

You will discover:

💚 Why vagus nerve toning and somatic practices matter 💚 Why nervous system care is part of personal liberation 

💚 Why it is vital that Black women stop pouring from an empty cup 

💚 How soft living can create space for joy, curiosity, and becoming 

💚 How Oríkì, Sankofa, and ancestral practices can support liberation and self-reclamation

Join Lisa and Anta for a warm, practical conversation about creating a soft life that supports your full self, and discover what becomes possible when treating yourself gently becomes a metric of success.

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The Gentle Breath is Lisa Hurley's Sunday newsletter featuring affirmations, reflections, wellbeing resources, podcast updates, and gentle encouragement for living a soft, centered, serene life. More than a newsletter, The Gentle Breath is a weekly invitation to slow down, reconnect with yourself, and begin each week from a place of peace. 

📚 Get your copy of Space To Exhale

If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

Already read it? Please consider leaving a review on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Goodreads.

ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and sustainable success.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest: Anta Gueye-James, Founder of Zanayah’s Haven, and author of Shattered American Dream

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

CONNECT WITH ANTA:

• Connect with Anta on LinkedIn and Instagram

• For updates, visit RebelDecolonizer.com

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Black women are often expected to lead with excellence while carrying pressure that remains invisible to everyone else. The result can be that they experience chronic stress, continuous mental exhaustion, and a version of success that leaves little space to exhale.

In “Clear, Calm & Capable: Leading Without Burnout,” Lisa Hurley welcomes Dr. Yvette Ankrah MBE, transformational coach, therapist, consultant, and Founder of Leading with C.L.A.R.I.T.Y. Together, they explore the realities of Black women and burnout in the United States, the mental health impact of high-pressure leadership, and why life-work balance must be treated as a leadership priority.

The conversation will also move beyond the problem to examine what healthier, more sustainable leadership can look like.

You will learn:

💚 How chronic pressure and burnout affect Black women

💚 Why clarity is essential for strong decision-making

💚 How leaders can create space to process and reset

💚 What sustainable leadership looks like in real life

💚 How calm, compassion, and support strengthen leadership

Join Lisa and Dr. Ankrah for a conversation that can help every woman who wants to lead well without losing herself in the process. 

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ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and personal growth.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guest

Dr. Yvette Ankrah MBE, Founder of Leading with C.L.A.R.I.T.Y.

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer 

Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

CONNECT WITH YVETTE:

• Connect with Yvette on LinkedIn and Instagram

• For updates, visit YvetteAnkrah.com

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• LinkedIn

• Intro

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• Instagram 

• Facebook

• IYKYK

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Black people are expected to carry the weight of racism while continuing to work, lead, care for others, and prove their worth. It’s exhausting. That exhaustion has a name: Black fatigue, a phrase coined by Mary-Frances Winters to describe the cumulative, intergenerational toll of racism on the mind, body, and spirit. 

In addition to being the founder and CEO of The Winters Group, Mary-Frances Winters is the bestselling author of “Black Fatigue: How Racism Erodes the Mind, Body, and Spirit” (Berrett-Koehler, 2020). Her daughter, Mareisha Winters Reese, is the president and chief operating officer of The Winters Group, and coauthor of the newly released second edition of Black Fatigue (Berrett-Koehler, 2026). 

In this episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Lisa welcomes this powerful duo to unpack what Black fatigue looks like, why it persists, and what can be done about it.

In “Black Fatigue: Rest, Resistance & Reclaiming the Self,” they explore:

🖤How racism creates chronic, cumulative, and intergenerational stress

🖤Why Black fatigue results in even more adverse health impacts in a post-COVID world

🖤What it means to reclaim the self beyond work, proving, and survival

🖤Why Black people deserve to experience rest 🖤How individuals and organizations can move from awareness to meaningful change

Join Lisa, Mary-Frances, and Mareisha for an honest conversation about naming the harm, resisting depletion, and creating space for Black people to heal, flourish, and rest.

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📚 Get your copy of Space To Exhale

If you are ready to move beyond burnout and create a life rooted in rest, self-love, boundaries, and wellbeing, Space To Exhale offers practical tools, affirmations, breathwork, and gentle guidance to help you get there.

Already read it? Please consider leaving a review on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Goodreads.

ABOUT SPACE TO EXHALE: THE PODCAST

Space To Exhale: The Podcast is a wellness show exploring rest, self-care, soft living, burnout recovery, mental health, boundaries, work-life balance, joy, and personal growth.

Each week, Lisa Hurley sits down with advocates, experts, authors, and changemakers for uplifting conversations designed to help listeners create lives they don’t feel they need a break from.

CREDITS:

👸🏽Guests 

Mary-Frances Winters, Founder, The Winters Group, Inc.; Bestselling author, Black Fatigue 

Mareisha Winters Reese, President & CEO, The Winters Group, Inc.; Co-author, Black Fatigue 

👸🏽Host & Executive Producer 

Lisa Hurley, five-time Anthem Award-winning author of Space To Exhale, Host of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, and Founder of The Great Exhale 

CONNECT WITH MARY-FRANCES and MAREISHA:

• Connect with Mary-Frances on LinkedIn and Instagram

• Connect with Mareisha on LinkedIn and Instagram

• Follow Black Fatigue on Instagram

• For updates, visit Black Fatigue.com 

CONNECT WITH LISA:

• Connect with Lisa on:

• LinkedIn

• Intro

• TikTok

• Instagram 

• Facebook

• IYKYK

Learn More

Space To ExhaleBook.com

JOIN THE CONVERSATION

What resonated with you most? Share your biggest takeaway using #TheSpaceToExhaleShow and tag Lisa so we can continue the conversation.