Graphika Chief Intelligence Officer Jack Stubbs joins Jim Ludes and Mark Jacobson for a discussion of the Spamouflage campaign and Graphika's most recent report "The #Americans."  Stubbs explains Graphika's most recent reporting, the evolution in the network's tactics, and the fine-line between informing the public and needlessly doing the work of adversarial information warriors.  In addition, Ludes and Jacobson unpack Thomas Rid's review of internal Russian documents, exposing the lies Russian propagandists tell themselves and their masters, as well as Josh Goldstein and Renee DiResta's piece on the sophistication of Russia's campaigns in 2024.

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