In this episode of the Local Councils Podcast, Local Councils Advisor, Ian Nockolds, speaks to Perry Holmes, the Director of Legal and Governance and the Monitoring Officer for Wiltshire Council. Perry is part of the Corporate Leadership Team and is also Chair of the Local Resilience Forum for Swindon & Wiltshire. In a wide ranging interview, Perry discusses his role at Wiltshire Council, reflecting on how a positive and more professional culture within local councils, leads to better governance and decision making. Perry describes the evolution of his career, from a criminal solicitor to his current role. Perry also discusses his love of running and Nottingham Forest, as well as the time he’s spent as a school governor, reflecting on the governance structure that exists in schools and how it compares to the Town and Parish Council sector.