Our guest on this episode grew up being the class clown, the funniest guy in the room, always able to make people laugh. But he's not afraid of real talk. He knows what it's like to fight giants, and he has one of the biggest hearts in the world for helping others to survive the battles they face. Evan Lawrie, AKA the Profit is an incredibly talented and humble emcee, and he's been a mentor at MMAD who has inspired thousands of young people over the last decade. We speak about the power music has to help heal wounds, and open up hard conversations. If you find it hard to talk about the way you feel - you're not alone. But there may be something in this conversation that could help you start your own. So listen close and take note.

Rhyme & Reason is proudly supported by the Newcastle Permanent Charitable Foundation.

Listen to 'Down' by The Profit as discussed in this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc7zwlLOGcg&feature=youtu.be

Host: Will Small

Audio Production and Music: Rohan Parry

Recorded at: The MMAD Studio, Gosford