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"But I feel like today, especially with like with music, a lot of art, honestly is kind of like it feels like a young, in a sense like a young man sport or young person sport where it's really like what the kids are pushing or putting out for the most part. I feel like anybody that's 28 and older if they haven't had some type of following or started in a sense of like actually making art, but they're like have a perspective."