Prickly and Blooming

(Special 2 of 2) Categorizing by Race | Lorna Hermosura


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In this special episode of Prickly and Blooming, Lorna Hermosura talks with host Jessie Browning about the social construction of race. Lorna breaks down the history of how categorizing people by race became a social norm. She also discusses why it's important to listen and recognize how people's lived experiences play a role in their identity.

This is the second part of a two-part conversation with Lorna in which she talks about where race came from. In the first episode in this series of conversations, Lorna discusses America's housing history.

Episode Timeline:

  • [00:02] Intro
  • [02:04] Meet Lorna Hermosura
  • [04:24] School segregation
  • [06:45] Title 1 schools
  • [08:52] Concept of race
  • [12:52] Hispanic vs non-Hispanic
  • [17:02] History of categorizing people
  • [23:26] Using race to divide people
  • [27:30] Hypodescent rule
  • [29:41] Acute vs pervasive trauma
  • [32:11] Recognizing lived experiences
  • [34:34] Entry points
  • [42:20] Outro
  • Resources Mentioned:
    • Danger of a Single Story by Chimamanda Adichie
  • 13th by Ava DuVernay (also on Netflix)
  • White Fragility by Robin Diangelo
  • Race as Biology Is Fiction, Racism as a Social Problem Is Real by Audrey Smedley, Virginia Commonwealth University and Brian D. Smedley, Institute of Medicine
  • Standout Quotes:
    • "Having blanket statements that actually don't apply to everybody is part of the systemic racism." -Lorna Hermosura [16:48]
  • "And I hear people say, ‘I don't believe in race. I'm a human being. My race is the human race,' and I agree. We are all human beings… It's a beautiful thing to see everybody as human beings, but we cannot ignore how society has constructed itself here in the United States such that racism still is a problem." -Lorna Hermosura [32:25]
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