When they decided to do a podcast together, Matt and Liam soon realised that they hadn't told each other the stories of their losses. 

Following on from Matt's journey in the last episode, Liam tells his story for the first time. Hear the moments before, during, and after the loss of his daughter Paloma.

This episode may be upsetting for some people to listen to, so please do so in a way that works for you. 

Thank you to Liam for sharing his family's journey and doing so in this way.