After a week in which the president bolstered white nationalists, why did he end it by getting rid of Stephen K. Bannon, the crusader in the White House for the so-called alt-right? Guest: Maggie Haberman, who covers the White House. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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