Giving yourself permission to start can look like a lot of different things. That has surely been the case for today's guest, the incomparable, Sommer Woods, Chief Inclusion Officer of Woods & Watts Effect.

In this inspiring, energy-filled and just all around fun conversation, we dive deep into how she has been at the forefront of some of metro Detroit's most iconic projects, how she intentionally builds and maintains community and even some of the mistakes that she's made along the way.

You're in the right place to experience this conversation. Now, just press play and get inspired to take action. As a treat, this special edition episode is also available via video. Want to watch this? Head over to jacquelinembaker.com/@magicaljax to see and hear this starting journey!