Well this is like when worlds collide!!!

On this very special episode of the podcast, Stephen chats it up with both Curtis AND Carlos. The three have a great time talking over their varsity and college seasons.

Each have their own tales to tell as umpires on the grind. From the ups and downs, the life of an official always lends itself to a vocation built on competency but forged in brotherhood.

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