In 2024 Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson wrote a book called What If We Get It Right?: Visions of Climate Futures (which became a NY Times Bestseller!). The heart of that book is 20 interviews with people sharing what getting it right on climate could look like and how we can make those visions into reality, but it wasn't enough! Cue the What If We Get It Right podcast. 

Our first guest is the reason there even is a season 2: Carri Twigg, my homie and co-founder of production company Culture House & co-host of the podcast Twigg & Jenkins. Carri worked in politics at all levels of government from super local to the Obama White House — and was Ayana's bunk mate on a trip to the Arctic last summer. We’re diving in on how cultural change precedes policy change.

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