What started off as Rizzle attempting to get these community leaders on the same podcast to provoke a fight for soundbites, quickly turned into one of the most fascinating and relevant conversations to have happened recently in the cryptoart scene and NFTland.  Everything is put on the table while we discuss multiple definitions of Trashart, The Journey of Artists, Copyright, Censorship, Decentralization, Jim's rants, What artists do/do not care about, and solving problems that artists have had for centuries with better NFTs and Smart Contracts.