In this conversation, Anthony interviews John about his journey with acceptance, commitment therapy, and mindfulness. John explains that his interest in these practices was sparked by his experience with obsessive-compulsive disorder. He describes acceptance commitment therapy as a form of therapy that teaches individuals how to accept and make committed choices towards their values, rather than being controlled by their thoughts and emotions. John shares how long it took him  to gain a good handle on Acceptance using these techniques. He also discusses how these practices have changed his life for the better and why he is passionate about sharing them with others through his book and podcast. Special thanks to Anthony Lisi for agreeing to do this interview.