Spencer trained me in Egypt in 1997 — back when applications were handwritten and camping tours ran on vodka and very little sleep.We cover Siwa Oasis, public toilets in Xi’an, ejecting a self-proclaimed Messiah from a tour in India, and the moment a passenger showed Kim Jong-il parody videos in North Korea.We talk about staying steady in a crisis, running back-to-back tours in Rajasthan, China before it changed, and the places that never quite leave you.Here's Spencer.

Spencer trained me in Egypt in 1997 — back when applications were handwritten and camping tours ran on vodka and very little sleep. We cover Siwa Oasis, public toilets in Xi’an, ejecting a self-proclaimed Messiah from a tour in India, and the moment a passenger showed Kim Jong-il parody videos in North Korea. We talk about staying steady in a crisis, running back-to-back tours in Rajasthan, China before it changed, and the places that never quite leave you. Here's Spencer.

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Stories from people who travelled before the internet — and figured it out as they went.The Tour Leaders is a storytelling podcast about life on the road before the internet — real, human, funny, and surprising stories told by the people who lived them.It’s for anyone who loves travel shaped by memory, connection, and cultural depth — without the influencer gloss.

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Stories from people who travelled before the internet — and figured it out as they went. The Tour Leaders is a storytelling podcast about life on the road before the internet — real, human, funny, and surprising stories told by the people who lived them. It’s for anyone who loves travel shaped by memory, connection, and cultural depth — without the influencer gloss.

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