Paula and Karen discuss their week.  Karen had an important doctor's appointment and Paula releases her new podcast.  The girls talk about Taylor Swift's new song All Too Well.  Paula and Karen talk about medical journeys and how survivors are often left at the mercy of meeting insurance companies' demands instead of getting what their doctors actually want for them. 
 ***“Trigger Warning:  This podcast will discuss people's personal experiences with abuse.  This may be triggering to listeners with similar experiences.”