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Have you ever stood under the night sky and felt a chilling sense of the vast unknown staring back at you? Prepare to step into that vastness as we welcome Stephen and Leslie Shaw, whose book Who They Are and What They Are Up To unravels the perplexing tapestry of human and extraterrestrial interaction. Their unique blend of archaeology, human evolution, and Eastern spirituality illuminates ancient encounters with the unknown. 

Stephen and Leslie share their compelling insights on the theoretical realms of interdimensional travel and spiritual encounters, as well as considering the possibilities that extraterrestrial intelligence has steered our evolution and our history on this planet. This episode is not simply a conversation; it's an expedition where we marvel at humanity's past and ponder its future.

"Space Journey" by Geoff Harvey
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