If you are told you cannot ask questions, that is a red flag. In this conversation, Dave Jenkins and Dawn Hill open Scripture to define spiritual abuse, contrast domineering leadership with biblical shepherding, and show why Christians must "test the spirits" and weigh all teaching by God's Word. We work through 1 Peter 5:1–5, 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1, and 1 John 4, and we discuss how to respond without vengeance, pray for those deceived, and find health in a church led by qualified elders. Passages referenced: 1 Peter 5:1–5, 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1, 1 John 4:1–3, Romans 12:9–21, Psalm 51, 1 Corinthians 11:1, Colossians 3:5–14, Philippians 1:6. For more from Dawn please visit her page at Servants of Grace: https://servantsofgrace.org/dawn-hill/