On this episode Paul talks to Ryan Haecker, a 4th year PhD student at the Faculty of Divinity, about the secularisation of universities, postmodernism, and why it's important to write academic papers on fantasy and science fiction.

Ryan suggests that we have something to learn from all good philosophy and literature, even if it doesn't seem to support Catholic ideas. He refers to the early Church Fathers' position on Greek philosophy, that even if it's not explicitly Christian, it can reveal something of the truth: "the spoils of Egypt should be stolen by the Hebrews".