Zach and Chris are joined by Cathy Oldershaw to discuss the 2013 Coen Brothers film Inside Llewyn Davis, Seinfeld, and Ad Astra--a movie she hasn't seen. Old Catchy lives up to her nickname by declaring a song from 1982 her favorite new song. Since it's spooky season and the 13th episode, the audio has a ghostly echo and Zach drops the call in the middle of the episode.