This week Ian and James discuss e-sports and their possible place in the Olympics. Ninja gets more than 30 millions views a month, and that's roughly the number of folks that tuned into the Rio Olympics in the USA. Should that matter? We think so. We also discuss how video games and sports continue to replicate each others' structure and format more and more, and how viewers and players alike are changing their tastes to match. Kids these days are involved in just as much hero worship and tribalism as we saw with our generation, and our parents' generation, with sports stars on TV - it's just that tastes are different these days.

We also take a brief detour through some of the games we've been playing, Ian takes another stab at that mudcrab, and we talk about some contenders for the worst sports games ever created.

Hope you love it.

Later Player