Welcome to episode #803 of Six Pixels of Separation. Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - Episode #803 - Host: Mitch Joel. When the book, Escape from Cubicle Nation, came out in 2009, it changed a lot (for many people). The author, Pamela Slim, established herself as a recognized authority in what business could be. She is also a community builder, consultant and former corporate director of training and development at Barclays Global Investors. Over the years, it has been amazing to become friends with her. Pam is also the author of Body of Work and her recently published book, The Widest Net - Unlock Untapped Markets and Discover New Customers Right In Front of You. Pam also partnered with my other friend/author Susan Cain to build and launch the Quiet Revolution and the Quiet Leadership Institute. In 2016, Pam launched the K’é Main Street Learning Lab in Mesa, Arizona, a grassroots, community-based think tank for small business economic acceleration. Enjoy the conversation...  Running time: 58:08. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at  Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Pamela Slim. The Widest Net - Unlock Untapped Markets and Discover New Customers Right In Front of You. Escape from Cubicle Nation. Body of Work. K’é Main Street Learning Lab. Follow Pamela on LinkedIn. Follow Pamela on Twitter. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. 

SPOS #803 - Pamela Slim On New Customers And New Markets

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Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #935. Malissa Clark is an associate professor of industrial/organizational psychology at the University of Georgia and the brains behind the Healthy Work Lab. Known for her expertise in workaholism, burnout, and employee well-being, Malissa has made significant strides in understanding the modern work environment. Her work has been featured in top journals like the Journal of Applied Psychology, the Journal of Management and many more. In this conversation, Malissa dove into the concept of the "ideal worker" and how this can wreak havoc on work-life balance. We talked about how the pandemic has changed our approach to work, pushing the need for flexibility and remote work options into the spotlight. She shared insights on how implementing changes like shorter workweeks and better communication practices can boost productivity and employee happiness. We also touched on the critical role of government and unions in ensuring fair work practices. Malissa didn’t hold back when discussing workaholism and the rise of hustle culture. She highlighted the importance of psychological detachment from work for overall well-being and how leaders today need to manage individual needs with empathy. Her thoughts on balancing side hustles and hobbies with work were particularly enlightening, stressing that we need time for daydreaming and mental rest to foster creativity. Malissa's latest book,  Never Not Working - Why The Always-On Culture Is Bad For Business - And How To Fix It, tackles the unhealthy relationship many of us have with work. In a world that praises long hours and constant connectivity, Malissa offers a deep dive into busting myths and providing strategies to break free. She explains how overwork and burnout affect both individuals and organizations, and offers practical advice on fostering a healthier work culture. Whether you’re a leader or an employee, this is a must-listen for anyone looking to reclaim their well-being and improve company performance. Enjoy the conversation...  Running time: 1:01:55. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at  Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Malissa Clark.  Never Not Working - Why The Always-On Culture Is Bad For Business - And How To Fix It. Healthy Work Lab. Follow Malissa on X. Follow Malissa on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'.  Takeaways  The concept of the ideal worker, who prioritizes work above everything else, can be detrimental to employee well-being and work-life balance. The pandemic has highlighted the need for a more flexible and adaptable approach to work, including remote work options. Implementing changes in the workplace, such as shorter workweeks and improved communication practices, can lead to increased productivity and employee satisfaction. Government regulations and the involvement of unions may be necessary to ensure fair and equitable work practices. Work-life balance is a challenge in the modern work environment, and the concept of a mandated 40-hour work week may not be feasible in the US. Psychological detachment from work is important for overall well-being and has been linked to positive outcomes such as work engagement and restful sleep. The rise of hustle culture has led to the monetization of hobbies and side hustles, but it is important to find a balance and avoid obsession. Leaders in the modern work environment need to manage individuals and their unique needs, which requires empathy and understanding. Taking time for boredom, daydreaming, and being alone with one's thoughts is important for creativity and well-being in a constantly connected world.  Chapters:  00:00 - Introduction and Background 03:00 - The Gap Between Academic Research and Real-World Application 06:00 - The Concept of the Ideal Worker 09:00 - Balancing Work and Personal Life 11:00 - The Challenges of Remote Work 17:00 - The Changing Landscape of Work 25:00 - The Impact of the Pandemic on Work 31:00 - Reconciling Work and the Economy 42:00 - The Role of Government and Unions 43:33 - Work-Life Balance and the 40-Hour Work Week 44:31 - Identifying Workaholism and Burnout 46:58 - The Importance of Psychological Detachment from Work 47:57 - The Challenge of Constantly Thinking About Work 49:40 - The Rise of Hustle Culture 50:39 - The Individualization of Work and Leadership Challenges 51:30 - Balancing Hobbies and Side Hustles 56:24 - The Role of Leaders as Mentors and Life Coaches 57:30 - The Difficulty of Being Bored and Alone with Thoughts 59:55 - The Impact of Personal Conversations on Research 

SPOS #935 – Malissa Clark On Curing Workaholism

Welcome to episode #934 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #934. When it comes to management and innovation, Vijay Govindarajan (aka VG) is a true legend. VG is a name synonymous with strategy and innovation. As the Coxe Distinguished Professor at Dartmouth’s Tuck School of Business and a key player in Silicon Valley’s Mach49 incubator (prior to joining the faculty at Tuck, VG was on the faculties of Harvard Business School, Insead and the Indian Institute of Management), VG's insights are pure gold for anyone looking to push their business thinking forward. VG’s journey is impressive. From being the first Professor in Residence and Chief Innovation Consultant at General Electric to working with top management teams in over 40% of the Fortune 500, VG has seen it all. In our conversation, he breaks down the evolving definition of innovation and why it's crucial for organizations to aim high and take risks. One of his standout ideas is the fusion strategy — melding physical products with tech to create something truly remarkable (also the name of his latest book,  Fusion Strategy - How Real-Time Data and AI Will Power the Industrial Future). It’s not just about having the latest gadgets but about integrating them in ways that make life better. We also tackle the topic of leadership. VG stresses that true leaders are those who can solve customer problems in real-time and build lifelong relationships. He’s a firm believer that smart data and AI are the new electricity - essential and transformative. But it's not just about having the tools... it's about how you use them. Innovation isn’t just a buzzword for VG; it’s a necessity, especially in our unpredictable world. We also talked about the impact of black swan events and how these unpredictable challenges require a new way of thinking and an openness to change. He’s all about thinking differently and pushing the boundaries to reach your true potential (see his ten-plus business books or the countless articles he’s published in the top academic journals - work like Reverse Innovation, Stop The Innovation Wars and many more). It’s about being bold, taking risks, and learning from every step along the way. VG’s practical experience and strategic mind make him a treasure trove of insights. He’s worked with industry giants like Boeing, Coca-Cola, FedEx, and Walmart, and spoken at major events like TED and the World Economic Forum at Davos. He’s a big brain with a warm heart and a passion for doing things right in business today. Enjoy the conversation...  Running time: 1:06:48. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at  Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Vijay Govindarajan.  Fusion Strategy - How Real-Time Data and AI Will Power the Industrial Future. Reverse Innovation. Stop The Innovation Wars. Follow VG on LinkedIn. Follow VG on X. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'.  Takeaways  Embrace true potential and overcome risk aversion to achieve innovation. Integrate physical and tech to create better products through fusion strategy. Leverage digital technologies to transform the industrial sector. Focus on solving customer problems in real time and building lifelong relationships. Smart data and AI are the new electricity, providing immense power and potential for companies. Innovation is crucial in a world of unpredictable change, and conducting low-cost experiments at the edges of the organization can lead to strategic flexibility and adaptability. Black swan events, such as Covid 19, require leaders to think differently and embrace new ways of navigating uncertainty. The marketplace is evolving and improving our lives, with technology enabling greater connectivity and convenience. Thinking differently and continuously striving to reach one's true potential is key to personal and professional growth.  Chapters:  00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:07 - The Ever-Evolving Definition of Innovation 06:36 - Overcoming Risk Aversion in Organizations 09:31 - The Impact of the Poly Crisis on Innovation 11:28 - The Potential of Digital Technologies in Business 13:20 - The Optimistic Outlook for Innovation 15:27 - Fusion Strategy: The Integration of Physical and Tech 21:21 - Digitizing the Industrial Sector 23:35 - The Role of Leadership in Embracing Innovation 26:09 - The Importance of Understanding Product in Use 28:36 - Augmented Intelligence and the Future of Work 31:24 - The Role of Policymakers in Regulating AI 36:17 - Navigating the Complexities of AI Regulation 39:30 - The Challenge of Meeting Consumer Expectations 46:27 - Solving Customer Problems in Real Time 50:19 - The Importance of Building Lifelong Customer Relationships 51:18 - The Significance and Challenges of Speed in Technology 52:39 - Smart Data and AI as the New Electricity 55:19 - Innovation in the Face of Unpredictable Change 57:35 - The Rise of Black Swan Events 58:12 - The Evolution of the Marketplace 1:00:29 - Thinking Differently and Embracing Potential 

SPOS #934 – Vijay Govindarajan Gives A Masterclass On Leadership And Management

Welcome to episode #933 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #933. Let’s dive deep into the transformative insights of Steve Dennis - a strategic advisor, retail leadership expert, and bestselling author. Steve's latest book, Leaders Leap - Transforming Your Company At The Speed Of Disruption, dissects why so many transformations fail and reveals what leaders must do to keep their organizations relevant in an ever-evolving landscape. With a diverse career that includes c-suite roles at two Fortune 500 companies and his current position as President of SageBerry Consulting, Steve brings a wealth of experience to the table. First he was at Sears and then Neiman Marcus Group, where he pioneered customer insight, loyalty, and omnichannel marketing strategies, making him a sought-after voice in retail innovation. Steve underscores the urgency for leaders to aim higher and move faster to navigate a world of abundant choice and zero friction. He argues that being remarkable is not just about standing out but creating an emotional connection with customers. In an era where technology has leveled the playing field, businesses must differentiate themselves and offer value beyond price. Steve stresses the need for agility in leadership, urging leaders to understand the factors impacting their business and respond swiftly to volatility. He warns against the trap of incrementalism and highlights the importance of creating a sense of urgency and embracing change. Steve's insights are not just theoretical - they are grounded in his extensive practical experience and are vital for any leader looking to thrive in today's fast-paced business environment. He is also a Forbes senior contributor and co-host of the  Remarkable Retail podcast, which amplifies the themes of his first book, Remarkable Retail - How To Win And Keep Customers In The Age Of Disruption. Enjoy the conversation...  Running time: 1:03:30. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at  Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Steve Dennis. Leaders Leap - Transforming Your Company At The Speed Of Disruption. Remarkable Retail - How To Win And Keep Customers In The Age Of Disruption.  Remarkable Retail Podcast. Follow Steve on X. Follow Steve on Instagram. Follow Steve on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'.  Takeaways  Being remarkable is about creating a distance between your brand and the competition, and making an emotional connection with customers. Leaders need to aim higher and move faster in order to stay relevant and avoid becoming irrelevant or extinct. Technology enables access to information and substitutes, making it crucial for businesses to differentiate themselves and provide value beyond price. Leaders must understand the factors that impact their business and be agile in responding to a volatile and uncertain environment. Creating a sense of urgency and embracing change are essential for driving innovation and staying ahead of disruption. Success anomalies can be misleading and it is important to analyze them critically and not draw general conclusions from them. Attracting and inspiring talent is crucial for the success of a company, and it is important for leaders to create a culture that values and leverages the unique gifts of their employees. Brands taking a stance on social and political issues can be a complex and risky endeavor, and leaders need to carefully consider the impact on their customers and stakeholders. Physical retail still has a role in a digital world, particularly for experiential and social shopping experiences, but it needs to evolve and provide unique value to customers.  Chapters:  00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:49 - The Power of Being Remarkable 06:04 - Aiming Higher and Moving Faster 08:55 - Navigating a Volatile Business Environment 13:03 - The Role of Technology in Driving Innovation 28:48 - Analyzing Success Anomalies 30:39 - Self-Reflection and Adaptability for Leaders 39:21 - Attracting and Inspiring Talent 44:03 - Navigating Brands and Social Issues 49:20 - The Role of Acquisitions 51:08 - The Evolving Role of Physical Retail 

SPOS #933 – Steve Dennis On Driving Leadership And Innovation

Welcome to episode #932 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Nicholas Mattei is an Associate Professor of Computer Science at Tulane University. Nick has dedicated his career to exploring the theory and practice of artificial intelligence, with a focus on decision-making systems for both autonomous agents and humans. He’s been into AI since he was young, influenced by his mother (a program coordinator at a science center, and his father, a professor). His early fascination with computers and programming laid the foundation for a career that has spanned prestigious institutions and cutting-edge projects. Before joining Tulane University, Nick worked as a Research Staff Member at the IBM TJ Watson Research Laboratory, where he tackled complex problems in question answering, natural language inference, decision making, and the ethical implications of AI on society. Prior to his time at IBM, he contributed to the AI & Algorithmic Decision Theory Group at Data61 in Australia. His work there and his involvement in organizing workshops on computational social choice highlight his commitment to advancing AI research. He also spent time at NASA in engineering where he was responsible for the design and implementation of control systems software for multiple small satellites. All cool stuff. At Tulane, Nick is not only advancing AI research but also emphasizing the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration. He works closely with the law school and sociology departments to study the societal impacts of AI. His leadership at the Tulane Center of Excellence for Community-Engaged AI demonstrates his dedication to ensuring that technological advancements benefit the wider community. Nick is passionate about education and mentorship, continually striving to inspire the next generation of AI researchers. His ability to bridge the gap between theoretical AI and practical applications makes him a valuable asset to both the academic and broader communities... and business thinkers like you. If you’re trying to understand the distinctions between traditional coding and AI, the nuances of machine learning, and the evolving landscape of AI technologies, this one is for you. Nick reflects on the challenges and opportunities presented by Generative AI, as well as his thoughts on the ethical deployment of AI systems, offering a nuanced perspective on the future of technology. His pragmatic approach to AI, coupled with his optimism about its potential to create value, provides a balanced view that is both insightful and thought-provoking at a time when we need it most. Enjoy the conversation...  Running time: 1:06:08. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at  Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Nicholas Mattei. Tulane University. Tulane Center of Excellence for Community-Engaged AI. Follow Nick on LinkedIn. Follow Nick on X. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'.  Takeaways  Interdisciplinary work, particularly between computer science, law, and sociology, is crucial to understanding the societal impacts of AI. AI is broadly defined as making computers appear intelligent, covering tasks like Google Maps navigation and Netflix recommendations, while machine learning involves training computers to learn from data and make predictions without explicit programming. Traditional AI integrates data across sources, whereas generative AI predicts the next word in a sequence based on large datasets. Generative AI excels at repetitive writing tasks but struggles with truly innovative creativity, as it mimics patterns from its training data. Significant concerns exist about the ethical deployment of AI, particularly regarding data privacy, copyright issues, and potential societal impacts The transformer architecture, developed by Google, revolutionized AI by enabling faster and more efficient training of large language models. Skepticism exists about achieving artificial general intelligence (AGI), but aligning AI tools with human values and ensuring they support human decision-making is valuable. AI's integration into various domains, from criminal justice to creative industries, poses both opportunities and challenges, necessitating continuous adaptation and training.\ Ongoing dialogue and exploration are essential to understanding and shaping the future of AI responsibly.  Chapters:  00:00 - Introduction and Nicholas's Background 06:00 - Defining AI and Machine Learning 12:00 - Generative AI Capabilities 20:00 - Ethical and Societal Impacts of AI 30:00 - Transformers and AI Development 35:00 - AI in Practice and Real-World Applications 45:00 - Future of AI and AGI 55:00 - Alignment and Ethical AI 58:00 - Conclusion and Future Discussions  

SPOS #932 – Nicholas Mattei On AI And The Future Of Smarter Machines

Here it is: Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast - Episode #931. What is a thought leader? What does thought leadership look like? How do you become a thought leader? I’ve spent decades fascinated by people who undertake the job of either creating or building on great ideas (mostly in business). It’s what led me to start ThinkersOne and it’s the same thing that keeps me inspired to show up here - week after week - and have these types of conversations. This week, we’re doing something a little bit different. I reached out to  Peter Winick - the founder and CEO of Thought Leadership Leverage and host of the  Leveraging Thought Leadership Podcast - and asked him if he would mind leading a conversation on the business of thought leadership. We were both eager to discuss and debate the value of thought leadership, the changing landscape of book publishing, building a personal brand, the power of thought leadership in corporate settings, the role of social proofing and more. We both agree that it’s all about relationship development, balancing vanity metrics and strategic networking, developing thought leadership skills and leveraging thought leadership for business opportunities. We explore the importance of creating mid-tier products, amplifying thought leaders' voices, and democratizing intellectual property. The conversation delves into building a sustainable thought leadership business, using thought leadership as a business generation strategy, and the real money in thought leadership. While we both might not love the title of “thought leader” we both agree on the value of people who chose the importance of lifelong learning, content creation, and balancing creativity with business strategy as a profession. Enjoy the conversation...  Running time: 1:15:33. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Subscribe over at  Apple Podcasts. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Peter Winick. Thought Leadership Leverage.  Leveraging Thought Leadership Podcast. Follow Peter on LinkedIn. Follow Peter on X. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'.  Takeaways  Practice and refinement are essential for thought leaders to deliver valuable content. Social media can serve as an R&D; lab for testing ideas and gathering feedback. Thoughtful thought leadership focuses on adding value and engaging with the audience, while influencer marketing aims to persuade and sell products. Respecting the publish button and ensuring the quality of content is crucial for thought leaders. Artificial intelligence can be used to enhance thought leadership by improving writing, generating opposing perspectives, and providing new insights.  Chapters:  00:00 - Introduction and Background 01:31 - The Value of Thought Leadership 06:20 - Building Personal Brand and Thought Leadership 10:36 - The Power of Thought Leadership in Corporate Settings 11:36 - The Role of Social Proof in Thought Leadership 15:19 - Balancing Vanity Metrics and Strategic Networking 25:13 - Monetizing Relationships and Thought Leadership 27:10 - Democratizing Intellectual Property and Broadening Offerings 29:21 - Building a Sustainable Thought Leadership Business 30:19 - Thought Leadership as a Business Generation Strategy 31:21 - The Real Money in Thought Leadership: B2B 34:06 - Creating Personalized Experiences and Extending the Event Impact 37:27 - The Limitations of Speaking and the Need for Behavior Change 39:18 - The Importance of Lifelong Learning and Content Creation 47:58 - Experimenting with Different Formats and Reaching the Target Market 49:36 - Practicing in Public and the Challenges of Thought Leadership 53:18 - Using Social Media as an R&D; Lab 54:15 Thoughtful Thought Leadership vs. Influencer Marketing 56:52 - Adding Sizzle to Thought Leadership 58:38 - Using AI to Enhance Thought Leadership 

SPOS #803 - Pamela Slim On New Customers And New Markets

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