On this episode, we interview LOCL who is the man behind the boards of the Popular Demand Podcast. We discuss the origins of his producing career, the trials of producing, issues with collaborations, Frank Ocean's staying power, Pharrell's influence, and more.

The intro, mid roll, and outro were all produced by LOCL. Check out more of his music right here: https://music.apple.com/us/album/late/1479134739