Social and cultural anthropologist Francio Guadeloupe joins us for a conversation on understanding the black condition and the racialisation of Muslims within the Netherlands and the Dutch Caribbean. Addressing the conviviality and creolization of the Kingdom, Francio explains the harmony and struggle that is present and looks at the changing politics of race.

Transcript: www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/transcript-conversation-francio-guadloupe

This conversation was recorded on 7th October 2020

Speakers: Paul Gilroy, Director of the UCL Sarah Parker Remond Centre // Francio Guadeloupe, Assistant Professor of Anthropology at the University of Amsterdam

Producer and Editor: Kaissa Karhu

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