Gail Lewis, psychotherapist and Visiting Senior Fellow at LSE, joins us for a conversation on Britain’s racial formation; speaking across the generational lines; and how music captures life and sustains us. Gail offers her psychoanalysis on black lives ‘mattering’ and how “being present to the aliveness, and the moments of deadening, and the moments of possibility, even in silence, really teaches you something about being ‘with’.”

Transcript: www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/transcript-conversation-gail-lewis

This conversation was recorded on 13th July 2020

Speakers: Paul Gilroy, Director of the UCL Sarah Parker Remond Centre // Gail Lewis, Visiting Senior Fellow in the Department of Gender Studies at London School of Economics

Producer and Editor: Kaissa Karhu

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