Gloria Wekker, author of 'White Innocence: Paradoxes of Colonialism and Race', discusses white innocence and colour-blindness in the Netherlands; reflecting on the country’s relationship with colonialism, its lack of discourse about race, and the importance of intergenerational knowledge exchange. Gloria also looks back on her experiences in the US: the moment she learned she was ‘black’, how the prom shaped her understanding of intersectionality, and the significance of having a black female professor for the first time.

Transcript: www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/transcript-conversation-gloria-wekker

This conversation was recorded on 1st October 2020

Speakers: Paul Gilroy, Director of the UCL Sarah Parker Remond Centre // Gloria Wekker, Professor Emeritus at Utrecht University

Producer and Editor: Kaissa Karhu

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