Nicholas De Genova joins Luke de Noronha for a conversation about the relationship between bordering, migration and the pandemic, and his current thinking around The Migrant Metropolis. Nicholas discusses why it’s important to think of migrant crises as racial crises, recapturing the subjectivity of migration, and the autonomy of migration as a framework.

Transcript: www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/transcript-conversation-nicholas-de-genova

This conversation was recorded on 8th February 2021

Speakers: Luke de Noronha, Lecturer in Race, Ethnicity & Postcolonial Studies, UCL Sarah Parker Remond Centre // Nicholas de Genova, Professor and Chair of the Department of Comparative Cultural Studies at the University of Houston

Producer and Editor: Kaissa Karhu

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