The last time we chatted with Arnaud Saint-Paul we explored how he believes technology is the expression of consciousness and the universe operates off the principle of pronoia. In this episode, Arnaud returns with Tonya Dawn Recla to keep the conversation going. We dive a bit further into that consciousness to understand how our connectedness to the outside world must first be internalized. Tune in as we go beyond trust to understand how stability unlocks our ability to establish sound external relationships both personally and professionally.