The CIA’s former director of operations, Jack Devine, joins me to discuss Russian aggression relating to Alexei Navalny, cyber attacks against the US, Russian bounties and Vladimir Putin’s power. Devine also talks about his new book, “Spymaster’s Prism” and chronicles his overseeing “Charlie Wilson’s War,” among other high profile CIA operations. And I’ll ponder whether we should tolerate those espousing QAnon and election fraud.