Luisifer talks to Dave Hofer, the Chicago-based author of Perpetual Conversion. During this long form babble with the charismatic editor and writer, we talk about the urban legend of deep dish pizza, amateur archiving forgotten punk gemstones with DuPage County Hardcore, naming cats after dead rappers, touring with Brutal Truth, and the infamous live Vanilla Ice album.

“Hosting an in-store signing for the Insane Clown Posse was probably my greatest professional achievement.”

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