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SRR #31 | Is Peter Christian Heretical
This week SRR welcomes Gary Edwards to the show for an in-depth discussion of the last two episodes with Peter Christian. In this episode, we ask whether or not Peter himself is heretical and we apply the command given in Romans 16:17, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." We also talk about Justification, Sanctification and the thief on the cross. We maintain that regeneration precedes faith and that works are not part of faith but rather are a consequence of saving faith.
Gary Edwards has dealt with Peter Christian before and has this to say:
"I encourage all Grace Book [Gary's Facebook page] members to mark and be extremely worried about the behavior and false and wild claims of Peter Christian. This young man says that anyone who believes in progressive sanctification is a heretic and false convert. I asked him to answer a few questions in relation to a debate he had on a podcast below, to which he has come out attacking me like a savage dog, telling all sorts of lies. Please, Church, do not follow this young man's teaching, he is an infant in the faith, if even, and shouldn't be gathering so much attention.
He believes that if you believe in paedobaptism, you are not in the faith!
He believes if you believe in progressive sanctification, you are not in the faith!
He believes that if you are wrong in any facet of the doctrines of Grace (lack knowledge), for him, the 5 points of Calvinism (to which he also is very confused by the way), you are not in the faith (neo-gnostic)!
He believes that if you don't condemn the likes of John McArthur, Paul Washer, and Steve Lawson, you are conforming to easy believers, and therefore not in the faith!
I asked him to answer these questions in relation to this poor debate (due to no fault from Bible ThumpingWingnut), attached below:
"I have asked Peter to answer these questions, to help understand exactly who he is condemning as heretical. I think it is important to give him a chance to explain clearly how and all he puts into this LS basket and does he judge all heretical who doesn't believe what he believes here:
Peter, can I ask you a couple of questions, please!?
(1). Do you present any theological difference from those who teach progressive sanctification and those who teach LS?
(2). Are these words synonymous in your understanding?
(3). Do you believe that anyone who teaches progressive sanctification is heretical?
(4). Do you believe anyone who teaches LS is heretical?
Obviously depending on how you answer some of these questions will determine whether or not these questions seem repetitive to you.
I ask these with respect, trying to understand exactly what way you view these issues. Thank you, Peter
Gospel blessings"
Peter has since blocked me [Gary] and is blocking others, yet going all over the Web with this terrible theology! Peter needs to be brought to account on this, not defended, or marked as a wolf and avoided at all cost."
Since we released episode 29 Peter has to block Tim and Joseph on Facebook and has discontinued all discussion. At this point, we calling Peter Christian out and warning people away from his ministry.
Questions? Comments? Feedback? Email us at [email protected]
Check out our blog: biblethumpingwingnut.com/semper-reformanda-radio
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This week SRR welcomes Gary Edwards to the show for an in-depth discussion of the last two episodes with Peter Christian. In this episode, we ask whether or not Peter himself is heretical and we apply the command given in Romans 16:17, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." We also talk about Justification, Sanctification and the thief on the cross. We maintain that regeneration precedes faith and that works are not part of faith but rather are a consequence of saving faith.
Gary Edwards has dealt with Peter Christian before and has this to say:
"I encourage all Grace Book [Gary's Facebook page] members to mark and be extremely worried about the behavior and false and wild claims of Peter Christian. This young man says that anyone who believes in progressive sanctification is a heretic and false convert. I asked him to answer a few questions in relation to a debate he had on a podcast below, to which he has come out attacking me like a savage dog, telling all sorts of lies. Please, Church, do not follow this young man's teaching, he is an infant in the faith, if even, and shouldn't be gathering so much attention.
He believes that if you believe in paedobaptism, you are not in the faith!
He believes if you believe in progressive sanctification, you are not in the faith!
He believes that if you are wrong in any facet of the doctrines of Grace (lack knowledge), for him, the 5 points of Calvinism (to which he also is very confused by the way), you are not in the faith (neo-gnostic)!
He believes that if you don't condemn the likes of John McArthur, Paul Washer, and Steve Lawson, you are conforming to easy believers, and therefore not in the faith!
I asked him to answer these questions in relation to this poor debate (due to no fault from Bible ThumpingWingnut), attached below:
"I have asked Peter to answer these questions, to help understand exactly who he is condemning as heretical. I think it is important to give him a chance to explain clearly how and all he puts into this LS basket and does he judge all heretical who doesn't believe what he believes here:
Peter, can I ask you a couple of questions, please!?
(1). Do you present any theological difference from those who teach progressive sanctification and those who teach LS?
(2). Are these words synonymous in your understanding?
(3). Do you believe that anyone who teaches progressive sanctification is heretical?
(4). Do you believe anyone who teaches LS is heretical?
Obviously depending on how you answer some of these questions will determine whether or not these questions seem repetitive to you.
I ask these with respect, trying to understand exactly what way you view these issues. Thank you, Peter
Gospel blessings"
Peter has since blocked me [Gary] and is blocking others, yet going all over the Web with this terrible theology! Peter needs to be brought to account on this, not defended, or marked as a wolf and avoided at all cost."
Since we released episode 29 Peter has to block Tim and Joseph on Facebook and has discontinued all discussion. At this point, we calling Peter Christian out and warning people away from his ministry.
Questions? Comments? Feedback? Email us at [email protected]
Check out our blog: biblethumpingwingnut.com/semper-reformanda-radio
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