Tom Uren and Amberleigh Jack talk about our developing understanding of the group that people call Scattered Spider. Independent security firms agree that there are a small number of key people that are driving the group’s outrageous success. That gives us hope that targeted action might stem the bleeding.

They also talk about data leaks from China’s cyber espionage ecosystem that are for sale on a data leak site. These look to contain actionable information from a counterintelligence point of view. And Tom wonders if a market for espionage-as-a-service will develop?

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