In this podcast Patrick Gray talks to Tom Uren about the recently released US National Cyber Security Strategy. Tom really likes it because it sets out how the US will “win” by reshaping who is liable when crapware hits the fan. It’s got other stuff in it too…

Tom and Pat also discuss the story of an MSS agent being busted when trying to steal intellectual property from the aviation industry. He used the same iphone for both his personal life and his spying and his iCloud backups were an intelligence bonanza. These backups not only had messages to potential recruits, they also had had audio of meetings he’d recorded where he was discussing his approach to espionage.

Finally, we talk about the security risks that arise from the use of Chinese ship-to-shore cranes at ports. Apparently these are chock full of sensors and could be spying on port logistics.