Tom Uren and Amberleigh Jack talk about Peter Williams, the general manager of vulnerability research firm Trenchant, who has pleaded guilty to selling exploits to the Russian 0day broker Operation Zero. It’s a terrible look, but it doesn’t mean the private sector can’t be trusted to develop exploits.

They also discuss a new report’s recommendations to empower the Office of the National Cyber Director. It’s a good idea, but it won’t make up for the cuts in funding and personnel across the Trump administration’s cyber portfolio.

This episode is also available on Youtube.