This podcast explains the meaning of the white stone mentioned in Revelation 2:7 as a Urim and Thummim that overcomers receive when they are exalted in the celestial kingdom. The ancient and modern uses of the Urim and Thummim are by persons on both the eastern and western hemispheres are explained. Joseph Smith’s used the Urim and Thummim to translate the Book of Mormon and to receive other modern revelations. This podcast also describes a seer stone that Joseph Smith had in his possession. The Urim and Thummim as an oracle and revelatory instrument on earth foreshadows the white stone that exalted saints will receive in the celestial kingdom to see kingdoms of a higher order. This earth in its celestialized condition will also be a great Urim and Thummim through which kingdoms of a lower order will be manifest.