Welcome to Episode 89 of The Things We All Carry. This is a podcast I recorded with Mike Nasti of Tip of the Spear Leadership. He was gracious enough to let me use the recording as a standalone episode for The Things We All Carry. He reached out to me to talk about mental health and how it affects leadership, especially in the fire service. I think you can apply that to leadership in general. So hopefully what you hear  is worthwhile and interesting and you can take away something from it and apply it to your own life. I want to thank Mike for being a friend and being open to having me on the show. And for being the guest on my show a couple of times, I guess this technically makes number three for him.