We talk to our old friend Marcus Leader about an experience he had on a staircase at the Goldfield Hotel in Goldfield Nevada back in 1973. More importantly, Marcus discusses the experiences he had on the Pyramid of the Sun with Dr. Carlos Castaneda.

Stairway Spirits is a podcast and research project examining supernatural activity on or around staircases. Catch up on previous chapters at www.ghostlytalk.com or use your favorite podcast app to subscribe to "Ghostly Talk Podcast."