Do you want tighter interviews, sharper jokes, and a real plan for building relationships that actually open doors? This episode is for you.

Steve Cooper—stand-up comic, host of Cooper Talk and Coop’s Comedy Corner, and the mind behind Cocktails/Coffee with Cooper—joins me to share what most people miss about comedy, conversation, and connection.

What you’ll get from this episode

• Stage confidence you can use anywhere: How Steve went from a freshman “Mr. Stockton” bit to headlining rooms—and what that journey teaches about presence.
• Comedy as a craft (not chaos): The real difference between improv and stand-up, why “thinking on your feet” is a trained skill, and how to work a room without working blue.
• Jokes that land: Stories vs. one-liners, building bits you can actually remember, and the rewrite habit that keeps material alive.
• Networking that doesn’t feel gross: Inside Steve’s organic meetups and how to build a reputation people vouch for.
• Interviewing like a pro: Why listening beats scripts, when to ditch the pre-written questions, and how to keep guests (and audiences) fully dialed in.
• Media reality check: Are podcasts replacing late night? What still works—and what’s just noise.

Who this episode helps:

• New comics or creators trying to find their voice on stage and on mic
• Podcasters who want interviews that breathe (and get shared)
• Professionals who need connection skills that aren’t fake or forced
• Anyone who loves Philly’s creative scene and wants the behind-the-curtain view

Try these moments

• 00:53 The talent-show spark that started everything
• 05:16 Philly’s comedy scene and earning your chops
• 11:32 Improv vs. stand-up—how to stay nimble without losing your act
• 14:59 The joke-writing workflow (that isn’t really “writing”)
• 19:44 What 1,000+ interviews taught Steve about listening and preparation
• 25:32 Podcasts, late night, and where audiences are actually spending time

Find Steve’s shows and guest gallery: CooperTalk.net

Listen to Cooper Talk and Coop’s Comedy Corner wherever you get your podcasts.

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