December 16, 2019

Starling Tribune - Season 8 Edition – Supergirl “Crisis On Infinite Earths Part One” Review (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST258

1 hour 17 minutes

The Starling Tribune Reporters SP and Chris review the 2019 Arrowverse Crossover Crisis On Infinite Earths Part One (technically Supergirl Season 5 Episode 9) with the help of Michelle’s notes once again. Michelle was out sick for the week. The reporters discuss the final Arrow included crossover episode part one including why you should enjoy these episodes while you have access to them, that this is simply the MOST AMBITIOUS crossover in the history of television spanning SIX currently airing television shows, why its time to geek out over all the cameos, the reporter’s takes on the Earth-16 adventure (more to come in a later episode), the reporter’s roses and thorns with this episode of the crossover, why Arrow fans might feel cheated at the big Arrow moment and Marc Guggenheim’s reasons for it,if the crossover can be produced like a 5 episode miniseries or a 5 episode premium streaming series, why James Bamford would have been a great addition to the Supergirl episode production staff, and what was that deal between the Monitor and Oliver Queen about anyway?

Episode: “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One” [Supergirl: Season 5 Episode 9]

Air Date: Sunday, December 8, 2019

Director: Jesse Warn

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1168394/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

13x Supergirl / 6x Arrow / 4x The Flash / 8x Spartacus

Writers: Robert L. Rovner (story by)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746362/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr8

17x Supergirl (7x story / 5x teleplay / 5x written)

Marc Guggenheim (story by)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr9

3x story by-Supergirl: Crisis on Earth-X Pt 1, Elseworlds Pt 3, Crisis Part 1

Derek Simon (teleplay by)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2037807/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6

Supergirl: 23x executive story editor, 22x story editor, 12x written, 7x staff writer, 5x teleplay, 2x story by

Jay Faerber (teleplay by)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4732141/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr7

2x Supergirl (also producer) / 9x Zoo / 2x Star-Crossed

Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLAd-G42w8&feature=youtu.be

Arrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Starling City 15-Oct-19 0.84

02 Welcome To Hong Kong 22-Oct-19 0.77

03 Leap Of Faith 29-Oct-19 0.76

04 Present Tense 5-Nov-19 0.62

05 Prochnost 19-Nov-19 0.74

06 Reset 26-Nov-19 0.79

07 Purgatory 3-Dec-19 0.83

Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

Supergirl

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Event Horizon 6-Oct-19 1.26

02 Stranger Beside Me 13-Oct-19 0.97

03 Blurred Lines 20-Oct-19 0.92

04 In Plain Sight 27-Oct-19 0.95

05 Dangerous Liaisons 3-Nov-19 0.78

06 Confidence Women 10-Nov-19 0.8

07 Tremors 17-Nov-19 0.79

08 The Wrath Of Rama Khan 1-Dec-19 0.87

09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One 8-Dec-19 1.67

The Flash

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Into the Void 8-Oct-19 1.62

02 A Flash of the Lighting 16-Oct-19 1.27

03 Dead Man Running 22-Oct-19 1.38

04 There Will Be Blood 29-Oct-19 1.48

05 Kiss Kiss Breach Breach 5-Nov-19 1.19

06 License To Elongate 19-Nov-19 1.29

07 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 1 26-Nov-19 1.17

08 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 2 3-Dec-19 1.32

09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Three 10-Dec-19 1.71

Black Lightning

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Birth of the Blackbird 7-Oct-19 1.16

02 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Maryam’s Tasbih 14-Oct-19 0.63

03 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Three: Agent Odell's Pipe-Dream 21-Oct-19 0.61

04 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Four: Lynn's Ouroboros 28-Oct-19 0.52

05 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Five: Requiem for Tavon 11-Nov-19 0.71

06 The Book of Resistance: Chapter One: Knocking on Heaven's Doo 18-Nov-19 0.62

07 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Two: Henderson's Opus 25-Nov-19 0.65

08 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Three: The Battle of Franklin Terrace 2-Dec-19 0.60

09 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Four: Earth Crisis 9-Dec-19 0.90

Batwoman

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Pilot 6-Oct-19 1.86

02 The Rabbit Hole 13-Oct-19 1.45

03 Down Down Down 20-Oct-19 1.22

04 Who Are You? 27-Oct-19 1.29

05 Mine Is A Long And A Sad Tale 3-Nov-19 1.16

06 I'll Be Judge, I'll Be Jury 10-Nov-19 1.09

07 Tell Me The Truth 17-Nov-19 1.01

08 A Mad Tea-Party 1-Dec-19 1.01

09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two 9-Dec-19 1.71

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

What was the overall theme? What was the link to the episode’s name?
- Part 1 of crossover
- Crisis across the multiverse
Fight scenes and stunts
- Supergirl saves Wil Wheaton from Spike
- Batwoman takes down members of Alice’s gang
- Tower
- - Atom, Batwoman, Mia, Oliver vs. Shadow Demons
  - Supers helping w/earthquake stuff
  - Batwoman allows Ray to upgrade batarang
  - Supers come back w/Flash
  - Rooftop fight
  - Monitor - must retreat
  - Oliver - I have to fight; shocks Monitor; runs out of arrows; puts up his fists; “dies”
Time Travel / Crisis / Cameos
- Monitor VO: Big bang - life; multiverse multiplying like mitosis; Age of Heroes finally born; heroes in time to save multiverse
- Earth-89: Gotham - Keaton’s Batman world - Alexander Knox (Robert Whul) reads paper
- Earth 9 - San Francisco - DC Universe Titans destroyed
- Earth X - The Ray
- Earth 66 - Burt Ward walking dog - “Holy crimson skies of death!”
- Earth 38 - Supergirl’s world - Wil Wheaton - doomsday sign (Michelle: I did not see this cameo coming)
- Earth 16 - 2046
- - Legends landed in an alternate Earth’s future
  - Lois, Sara, and Brainiac go
  - Bunker - Oliver has baby; Oliver and Sara fight; Sara and Old Man Oliver talk
Oliver Queen / Green Arrow - Earth 1
- Gives Mia her own Green Arrow suit and bow; there should always be at least one Green Arrow
- Upset when Barry says he’s going to die; demands to see the Monitor; Oliver - Kara and Barry are supposed to live; Monitor spared lives to save them last year; this is a new crossover (LOL), a new problem
- Saved 1 billion
- Barry and Kara - save us
- Mia - find your mother and William
Team Arrow
Supergirl - Earth 38
- Warns Argo, but too late
- Convinces Batwoman others are ok
- Has hope; Krypton is a spirit; fight for what’s right
- 3 billion to Earth 1
Team Supergirl
- J’onn - tells team about Monitor and Crisis; has Legion’s ship
- Coordinate evacuation to Earth 1
- Lana - build portal; awkward convo w/Alex Danvers; I would help even w/o apology; I’m not evil
Superman - 38 (Hoechlin)
- Son - Jonathan: Lois, Alura, and Clark puts him in pod to Earth (Brando’s dialogue)
- Monitor saves Clark and Lois at the last minute
Superman - (Routh)
Batwoman - Earth 1
- Michelle - BW asks about Alice, which is the current storyline; the timeline is off; last year she met Supergirl & co, but her show started at the beginning of her superhero career
Barry Allen / Flash - Earth 1
Team Flash
Sara Lance / White Canary
- Never thought I would see parent Oliver
Ray / Atom
- Last year at Woodstock - Janis Joplin noticed him and gave her a new song
Team Legends
Monitor
- This is not the ending I saw for Oliver
Harbinger
- Collects hero; brings them to Earth 38
- Explains what’s going on to team; Earth 38 - tipping point
- Raises the Quantum Tower - Monitor placed them on key Earths
- Have to protect tower from Anti-Monitor
Lex Luthor
Pariah
- Don’t see Nash become Pariah (Michelle: Where’s Psycho Pirate?)
- Witness to Anti-Monitor’s actions
- Everything is doomed
Thorns:
- SP
- - Disconnected episode by episode production

- - - Focused on the show episode’s cast (In this case Supergirl)
  - Plot progressing too fast (Better on second viewing)
  - Vast destruction and death not easily comprehensible
  - - Too much, too quick
  - Jonathan’s single escape wasn’t necessary - why Earth-16?
  - William not in Crossover and doesn;’t get to experience Oliver dying
  - Batwoman’s timeline
  - Where did Mia’s Arrow suit come from?
  - Supergirl subplots - especially Lena Luther was not necessary
  - - How many billions died because Lena argues about helping?
  - Ray was vulnerable while giving Batwoman upgrade
  - Arrow’s death scene - full quiver to no quiver instantly
  - Where are his knives/blades?
  - Scene cut short
  - Arrow dies on Supergirl - not on Arrow.Pretty big deal.
  - Pariah just appears like Harbinger. No origin story
- Chris
- - Lena sucks
  - pacing seemed off.
  - Ollie death to ‘subvert our expectations’ bs
  - Ollie’s magic quiver
  - shadow demons looks like dementors
- Michelle - don’t see Lyla become Harbinger or her relationship w/Monitor; don’t see Nash become Pariah; wanted tower to become part of plot like in comics; wish crossover treated like 5 hour movie, not upset Oliver died in Part 1, but just because it’s called Supergirl doesn’t mean all the stupid subplots from the show have to be in the crossover (I think we’ve had this complant every crossover)
Roses
- SP -
- - “Age Of Heroes” Multiverse Intro
  - Worldbuilding - All the Earths, all of DC’s screen coming together
  - 4th Wall broken early and often - didn’t take itself too seriously
  - Homages to 78 Superman with Jonathan was cool
  - Chyron’s really helped map out where people were
  - Supergirl and Superman comforting each other in the face of tremendous loss - DEO Balcony
  - Avenger’s Age Of Ultron battle around the machine / Harry Potter
  - Tons of female leads. Lyla/Harbinger, Supergirl, Sara, Alex Danvers, Lena Luther, Batwoman
- Chris
- - Legends team trivia with time goof. hell yeah
  - Ollie and Sarah friendship is solid and referenced a lot
  - Happily ever after for Clark/Lois
  - Ray is a delight (batwoman upgrades and nerding out)
  - Getting to see Amell play another Ollie is fun
  - Symmetry for Kal-El and Jonathon
  - Other Earths (Batman 89 awesome)
- Michelle - fixed Legends 2046 plot hole / great Old Man Ollie-Sara moment; Batwoman: interactions w/Ray, trusting Kara, and kicking butt; Amell’s acting is on point; Mia gets suit from Dad
For reference: Crisis on Infinite Earths: Easter Eggs and References in Part One (8 Dec 2019) https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/12/08/crisis-on-infinite-earths-spoilers-part-1-easter-eggs-cameos/#1

NEXT EPISODE

Link to Promo: https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/12/09/crisis-on-infinite-earths-part-2-batwoman-promo-cw/ (Date: 8 Dec 2019)

Episode: “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 2” [Batwoman: Season 1 Episode 9]

Air Date: Monday, December 9, 2019

Summary: The group uses Ray's invention to track new recruits to help save the universe. The Monitor sends Iris, Clark and Lois in search of a mysterious Kryptonian, while Kate and Kara head out to find Bruce Wayne. In addition, Mia challenges Sara, Rory discovers a hidden talent, and Lex Luthor returns.

Director: Laura Belsey

Writers: Don Whitehead & Holly Henderson

IMDB link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11199024/?ref_=ttep_ep9

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