Catherine, Rasheen and I respond to episodes 5 and 6 of Gimlet Media's StartUp Church Planting series. We discuss the last episode with AJ Smith and Restoration Church and we also talk about meeting  Abby Norman and New Hope United Methodist.

I reference A Nazareth Manifesto by Samuel Wells and The Message in the intro to this episode. Later on, I mention Jim and Casper Go To Church. Jim Henderson was on A New Thing on episode 7.

Music created by Adam Powell of Best Friends Creative. Subscribe to A New Thing everywhere. Sign up for the newsletter.