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Phil Taylor, CTO @CDW , built a 250-person services company from the ground up, sold it to CDW, and now runs their Digital Velocity business unit. But what makes his story compelling isn't the exit — it's how he got there.
At 21, he was distributing half a billion dollars in checks. One error could've bankrupted the company. Years later, he learned the hard way that being right matters less than helping your team win. He'll tell you about the Silverlight bet that taught him to ship imperfect products fast, the founders he picked wrong, and why his best business came from investing in people he let go.
He's also refreshingly honest about AI hype, why most services companies miss the obvious, and how to actually scale when you can't touch the code your teams are shipping.
If you're building a company, leading engineers, or trying to figure out how to compete without a shiny product, this one's worth your time.
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Timestamps
00:00 Meet Phil — from software engineer to CTO at CDW
01:51 The builder mindset, started at age 13
02:30 Distributing $500M in checks at 21
04:38 The team rebellion that humbled him as a leader
05:37 Choosing to win with your team, not be right
06:56 Ship value fast — perfect is the enemy of good
07:19 Listen to customers, don't sell them
09:09 The honest manager who told him to go start something
10:11 Building serverless before AWS Lambda
11:06 Pivoting to services, betting on Kubernetes
12:44 Exiting to CDW during the pandemic
13:28 Investing in people — your best network effect
15:32 The jump to enterprise — processes and structure
18:40 Running services like a product with real standards
19:08 AI quality control — why manual testing still matters
21:18 Staying on top of innovation
24:13 Zero to one in consulting — partnerships first
26:04 Building your portfolio of capabilities
28:40 AI is overhyped, cloud is a journey
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🔗 Connect with Phil Taylor → https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptaylor1/
🔗 Connect with Mala Ramakrishnan → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malaramakrishnan
🎧 Subscribe to the podcast
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnL3D6aI60R-cCvypFIkh4A
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1NIDE4cT5fuVjC3HaGbCDK?si=eoSTNmhqQNKHQl9d1Jx0UQ
Apple Podcast: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/show/talking-to-the-leaders-of-ai-the-ceo-series-with-mala/22ad2bae-502b-4eb1-aa74-53bc79754db7Visit our
Website: https://malaramakrishnan.com | https://founderscreative.org
By Mala RamakrishnanPhil Taylor, CTO @CDW , built a 250-person services company from the ground up, sold it to CDW, and now runs their Digital Velocity business unit. But what makes his story compelling isn't the exit — it's how he got there.
At 21, he was distributing half a billion dollars in checks. One error could've bankrupted the company. Years later, he learned the hard way that being right matters less than helping your team win. He'll tell you about the Silverlight bet that taught him to ship imperfect products fast, the founders he picked wrong, and why his best business came from investing in people he let go.
He's also refreshingly honest about AI hype, why most services companies miss the obvious, and how to actually scale when you can't touch the code your teams are shipping.
If you're building a company, leading engineers, or trying to figure out how to compete without a shiny product, this one's worth your time.
________________________________________________
Timestamps
00:00 Meet Phil — from software engineer to CTO at CDW
01:51 The builder mindset, started at age 13
02:30 Distributing $500M in checks at 21
04:38 The team rebellion that humbled him as a leader
05:37 Choosing to win with your team, not be right
06:56 Ship value fast — perfect is the enemy of good
07:19 Listen to customers, don't sell them
09:09 The honest manager who told him to go start something
10:11 Building serverless before AWS Lambda
11:06 Pivoting to services, betting on Kubernetes
12:44 Exiting to CDW during the pandemic
13:28 Investing in people — your best network effect
15:32 The jump to enterprise — processes and structure
18:40 Running services like a product with real standards
19:08 AI quality control — why manual testing still matters
21:18 Staying on top of innovation
24:13 Zero to one in consulting — partnerships first
26:04 Building your portfolio of capabilities
28:40 AI is overhyped, cloud is a journey
________________________________________________
🔗 Connect with Phil Taylor → https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptaylor1/
🔗 Connect with Mala Ramakrishnan → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malaramakrishnan
🎧 Subscribe to the podcast
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnL3D6aI60R-cCvypFIkh4A
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1NIDE4cT5fuVjC3HaGbCDK?si=eoSTNmhqQNKHQl9d1Jx0UQ
Apple Podcast: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/show/talking-to-the-leaders-of-ai-the-ceo-series-with-mala/22ad2bae-502b-4eb1-aa74-53bc79754db7Visit our
Website: https://malaramakrishnan.com | https://founderscreative.org