On the very first episode of State & Main, Jonathan Bryant sits down with a familiar face—Spence—for a candid and energetic conversation. Spence flips the script and puts Jonathan in the hot seat, digging into the vision behind the podcast and what pushed him to jump in headfirst.

They cover the “why” behind State & Main, what listeners can expect moving forward, and set the tone for the stories that are still to come.

This is just the beginning—and it’s a fun one.

We hope you enjoy it. Be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss what’s ahead.

Happy listening!